
In this Daily Maverick Power Chat, part of a series marking 30 years of the Constitution, Ferial Haffajee speaks to Kallie Kriel of AfriForum about the preamble’s vision that South Africa belongs to all who live in it. They discuss the organisation’s lobbying in the United States, the Expropriation Act, the “Kill the Boer” court case, the risk of South Africa’s exclusion from Agoa, and whether Afrikaans institutions such as Sol Tech are open to all.
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Hosted by: Ferial Haffajee
Guest: Kallie Kriel
Edited by: Joel Seboa
Produced by: Emilie Gambade & Joel Seboa
Original Theme Music & Design by: Bernard Kotze
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00:00 – Introduction
00:30 – The Constitution’s Preamble
01:30 – ‘People’ Versus ‘Peoples’
02:00 – A ‘Community of Communities’
03:50 – Echoes of Apartheid Separation
07:55 – March and March and Non-State Power
10:30 – Expropriation Without Compensation
14:00 – AfriForum’s Visits to the US
17:45 – Malema and the ‘Kill the Boer’ Case
20:50 – Agoa and US Pressure
26:25 – Ernst Roets and Minority Autonomy
27:50 – Federalists, Not Secessionists
31:00 – Afrikaans Institutions: Who Can Attend
35:30 – ‘A State Within a State’
36:55 – The Social Cohesion Index
40:50 – Close

